Борис Романов
Anna-Anastaia: the old and new versions and discussion
2.1. FS WAS KILLED by GROSSMAN in 1920
I quote the following part of the discussion from the chat G. King (Coldharbor, Jan 28):
One of the members of the chat (not me) has quoted from Penny Wilson's former comment on website “Alexander Palace TimeMachine” (further abbr. AP), on: February 22, 2005 (topic "Franziska Schanzkowska and Grossman") :…[ in part] …
<<There are copies of Grossmann's trial transcripts – or the German version thereof – extant in at least one town in Germany. Berlin, as we all know, was hideously bombed by the Allies at the end of WWII, and many, many buildings were destroyed along with their contents. One of these buildings stored Berlin police records and archives; however, then as now, there were people interested in the phenomenon of what came to be known as serial killing. At least one of these people, a doctor of psychology, had copies of documents from Grossmann's trial – and his descendants allowed Greg and I access. … In the list of victims Grossmann was accused and convicted of murdering was the name "(female) Saznovski." This was the individual whom the Berlin police believed was Franziska Schanzkowska. In the course of their lengthy investigation, in which they identified victims known by only one name – like Saznovski – information included in missing persons reports were cross-matched with the victimology, including what Grossmann had written in his diary. What was written about Saznovski was sufficient for the Berlin police – a highly regarded professional body – to conclude that Saznovski was Franziska. They broke the news to the Shanzkovsky family, and they laid Franziska to rest until 1927, when the Berliner Nachtausgabe disinterred her.>>
Thus, P. Wilson wrote earlier that "then as now, there were people interested in the phenomenon of what came to be known as serial killing. At least one of these people, a doctor of psychology, had copies of documents from Grossmann's trial – and his descendants allowed Greg and I access".
And Penny Wilson wrote on: February 22, 2005 (on AP):
<<The bottom line is that Felix and his family were told by the Berlin police that Franziska was dead. Six years later, Felix resisted going to meet Fraulein Unbekannt because he believed Franziska was dead. He was eventually convinced to travel to Seeon to see her. He did so. He thought that there was a resemblance from certain angles, but did not recognize her as his sister. He never did. Of his three surviving siblings, only his sister Gertrude did, but she recanted and refused to sign a legal affadavit. Again, Felix never claimed or admitted that Anastasia Manahan was his sister Franziska. Years later, when pushed on the subject, he snapped out, "My sister was sausages long ago." >>
Later (on Jan 28, 2011, on Coldharbor) Greg King writes:
<<Our belief that the Berlin police told FS's family this was based on Rathlef-Keilmann. Once we discovered how unreliable she is, we did a re-think-and could uncover nothing to support this-in fact, the opposite was true-the Berlin police accepted that AA was FS, legally-hence not a victim of Grossmann>>
Another chat's user (not me) wrote:
<<Berlin Police accepted AA as FS? How odd this public statement was not mentioned at the famous " AA German Trials"…>>
G.King answered (Jan 28):
<<It presumably was mentioned during the trial and introduced-though again, the opponents of AA never really tried to prove she was FS-even AA's biggest supporters admit this-that it was never seriously discussed as an issue…>>
Later (March 6), I wrote to G.King:
Hi, Greg King… From P.Kurth "Anastasia, the Riddle of Anna Anderson» (pp.188-189 in Russian):
<<"We did not establish the identity," the police in Darmstadt were quick to explain. "We did not take part in the work of the identification. As we have been informed today by the manager [Count Hardenberg ] of the estate of the former Grand Duke of Hesse, the name of Schanzkowska was ascertained by a detective for the Berliner Nachtausgabe. And it was detective Martin Knopf, in truth, ostensibly working for the Nachtausgabe and no one else, who informed the Berlin police on April 8, 1927, that Anastasia's identity with Franziska had been established beyond all doubt…>>
Thus, it was Martin Knopf, but not the police in Darmstadt, who "establish AAwasFS"!
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Thus, we see that:
1. The words of Penny Wilson about the source of information about the murder of FS is contrary to G. King's words on the other source of information.
2. G. King says nothing about the first source of information, and he without any sufficient grounds rejected a second source (Rathlef-Keilmann's book). Even if Rathlef-Keilmann's book contains some inaccuracies in the other evidences, it absolutely does not mean that Rathlef-Keilmann are not accurate all its other evidence. Compare this with the attitude of Mr. King's to Gilliard's testimony and to Gilliard's book, Gilliard, and you'll see the extreme bias of Mr. King.
